Comments on: What Could Singularity Mean To Security Innovation? http://securitybuddha.com/2007/09/11/what-could-singularity-mean-to-security-innovation/ Security Enlightenment - Mark Curphey Thu, 08 Jan 2009 11:58:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: nobody http://securitybuddha.com/2007/09/11/what-could-singularity-mean-to-security-innovation/#comment-7004 nobody Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:59:06 +0000 http://securitybuddha.com/2007/09/11/what-could-singularity-mean-to-security-innovation/#comment-7004 The Anime "Ghost in the Shell" has a plot which involves a singularity. very interesting stuff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_in_the_Shell The Anime “Ghost in the Shell” has a plot which involves a singularity. very interesting stuff:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_in_the_Shell

]]> By: MikeA http://securitybuddha.com/2007/09/11/what-could-singularity-mean-to-security-innovation/#comment-6848 MikeA Sun, 16 Sep 2007 12:19:11 +0000 http://securitybuddha.com/2007/09/11/what-could-singularity-mean-to-security-innovation/#comment-6848 I dont think I can say too much about this because of previous work, and I'm not sure if ex-collegues are still looking into this area, but I think Maslow's hierarchy of needs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow_hierarchy_of_needs) and applying them to computer security is potentially a step forward in the "security AI" landscape. I dont think I can say too much about this because of previous work, and I’m not sure if ex-collegues are still looking into this area, but I think Maslow’s hierarchy of needs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow_hierarchy_of_needs) and applying them to computer security is potentially a step forward in the “security AI” landscape.

]]> By: Alex http://securitybuddha.com/2007/09/11/what-could-singularity-mean-to-security-innovation/#comment-6592 Alex Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:03:10 +0000 http://securitybuddha.com/2007/09/11/what-could-singularity-mean-to-security-innovation/#comment-6592 More like attachment to self. The animal predator attacks prey in order to exist or further existence. In fact, the attachment to things might simply be a manner of attracting mates - furthering self. The detachment of self for some other focus is not incongruent to Buddhism or Christianity (I'm not versed in other religions well enough to discuss, unfortunately). So maybe the key to the singularity is embedding "religion" into the AI? Are Isomov's "three laws" essentially religion for the singularity? More like attachment to self. The animal predator attacks prey in order to exist or further existence. In fact, the attachment to things might simply be a manner of attracting mates - furthering self.

The detachment of self for some other focus is not incongruent to Buddhism or Christianity (I’m not versed in other religions well enough to discuss, unfortunately).

So maybe the key to the singularity is embedding “religion” into the AI? Are Isomov’s “three laws” essentially religion for the singularity?

]]> By: Alex http://securitybuddha.com/2007/09/11/what-could-singularity-mean-to-security-innovation/#comment-6590 Alex Tue, 11 Sep 2007 15:02:18 +0000 http://securitybuddha.com/2007/09/11/what-could-singularity-mean-to-security-innovation/#comment-6590 More like attachment to self. The animal predator attacks prey in order to exist or further existence. In fact, the attachment to things might simply be a manner of attracting mates - furthering self. The detachment of self for some other focus is not incongruent to Buddhism or Christianity (I'm not versed in other religions well enough to discuss, unfortunately). So maybe the key to the singularity is embedding "religion" into the AI? More like attachment to self. The animal predator attacks prey in order to exist or further existence. In fact, the attachment to things might simply be a manner of attracting mates - furthering self.

The detachment of self for some other focus is not incongruent to Buddhism or Christianity (I’m not versed in other religions well enough to discuss, unfortunately).

So maybe the key to the singularity is embedding “religion” into the AI?

]]> By: dennisgroves http://securitybuddha.com/2007/09/11/what-could-singularity-mean-to-security-innovation/#comment-6588 dennisgroves Tue, 11 Sep 2007 14:08:47 +0000 http://securitybuddha.com/2007/09/11/what-could-singularity-mean-to-security-innovation/#comment-6588 However, since security is really a social problem - and we have not solved the basic issues like "how to be nice and fair to each other and just get along" there are going to be criminals; and antisocial; predatory behavior. Perhaps the solution to security social problem is in Buddhism? Maybe it is our attachments to things that make us insecure? How can you rob the man who has nothing? However, since security is really a social problem - and we have not solved the basic issues like “how to be nice and fair to each other and just get along” there are going to be criminals; and antisocial; predatory behavior.

Perhaps the solution to security social problem is in Buddhism? Maybe it is our attachments to things that make us insecure? How can you rob the man who has nothing?

]]> By: Alex http://securitybuddha.com/2007/09/11/what-could-singularity-mean-to-security-innovation/#comment-6584 Alex Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:53:49 +0000 http://securitybuddha.com/2007/09/11/what-could-singularity-mean-to-security-innovation/#comment-6584 Funny, I was going to blog the same thing, but different question. The real question in my mind is "What does security mean to singularity?" I was watching "I, Robot" the other day, and the most unrealistic thing to me, the one "this would never happen in the real word" deal-breaker wasn't Will Smith flying through the air firing pistols, or cars that drive themselves, or any of that crap. It was the following thought: "We'll never be able to secure that sort of computing infrastructure". Security is arguably the second or third most significant feature for the singularity crowd. Here's why: No species will survive until it is reasonably capable of withstanding the forces of the predators in it's ecosystem. We may be the creator, but we are also the predator (and possibly, as the horror movies suggest, the prey). We cannot create any assurances around abusing or being abused by AI until we can secure computing infrastructure. FWIW- the key to creating a solution might lie in a subj. near and dear to my heart: the use of Bayesian networks to solve complex IRM issues. See this economist article: http://economist.com/science/displaystory.cfm?story_id=5354696&no_na_tran=1 Funny, I was going to blog the same thing, but different question. The real question in my mind is “What does security mean to singularity?” I was watching “I, Robot” the other day, and the most unrealistic thing to me, the one “this would never happen in the real word” deal-breaker wasn’t Will Smith flying through the air firing pistols, or cars that drive themselves, or any of that crap. It was the following thought:

“We’ll never be able to secure that sort of computing infrastructure”.

Security is arguably the second or third most significant feature for the singularity crowd. Here’s why:

No species will survive until it is reasonably capable of withstanding the forces of the predators in it’s ecosystem. We may be the creator, but we are also the predator (and possibly, as the horror movies suggest, the prey). We cannot create any assurances around abusing or being abused by AI until we can secure computing infrastructure.

FWIW- the key to creating a solution might lie in a subj. near and dear to my heart: the use of Bayesian networks to solve complex IRM issues. See this economist article:

http://economist.com/science/displaystory.cfm?story_id=5354696&no_na_tran=1

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